"Spend time with architects?" Well, here in Ms. Fraenkel's home town of Liverpool, is one architect she declined to give the time of day. When one of the numerous other bodies whose board she chairs (Cosmopolitan Housing Association) deliberately and cynically undermined and double-crossed me, (full story available in my blog: http://tayoaluko.blogspot.com/) she got an employee to write to me saying, "Beatrice would not be willing to meet with you.." and that "...the Board does not consider it necessary to operate a dedicated consultants' complaints procedure". She talks a good game, and it is almost funny to see her referred to as a breath of fresh air. It depends which way she's facing. From where I stand, it's quite an unpleasant smell. Good luck to the ARB and other architects under her tenure.