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Saturday saw presentations by Will Alsop, local government and the regions minister Nick Raynsford, and English Heritage's Simon Thurley, and a discussion of the prospects for Thames Gateway. Conferences always provide memorable moments when enthusiastic speakers put the right words in the wrong order. Richard Rogers, querying why buildings should be specific to function, asked: what is a night club? What is a church? The consequences of getting that wrong don't bear thinking about.

Dunster said that Liverpool had been in the missionary position for so long it had cramp.Does he really know the Karma Sutra? But best of all was the president's unintended quip that 'Liverpool has balls but they have fallen behind'.Ouch.

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