For years the profession has complained that there are too many schools with too few resources producing too many architects - who end up underskilled and consequently underpaid. Yet with the exception of the attempt to close three schools in the wake of the Esher Report in the 1980s, little has been done to address the problem. We now have the example of another profession worried about falling standards and a decline in incomes compared to lawyers and accountants. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors is about to de-recognise 50 per cent of the country's university surveying courses. Is there a message here?