The riba must address the issue of intellectual property rights (IPR), argued Jonathan Ball in discussing Tim Gough's paper on risk in architecture. Ball said that a day-one IPR declaration would be the best way to protect the most valuable part of an architect's contribution - the creative thinking at the beginning of a project. 'Society sees us as a soft touch,' he said. John Wright said that the way housing associations expected architects to work at risk was 'outrageous'. Jim Cuthbertson went further. 'If I work to stage C for nothing for a housing association,' he said, 'I am bribing them to get the fee.' The level of work architects are expected to do for nothing is ridiculous, said Marco Goldschmied. For instance, on the competition for the Inland Revenue building at Nottingham, Richard Rogers Partnership was head to head with Michael Hopkins, the eventual winner, 'they asked for so much detail from both practices that we both ended up drawing 1:20-scale typical elevations'.