Lior Brosh's comments
But Abe, I did answer.
I said that the Palestinians had a way out with 4 Israeli Prime Ministers offered them the disputed land but they didn’t take it.
Let’s simplify the situation shell we - We have two nations at the same spot. One chose to move on, forget about the past, build, create progress and look into the future. The other chose hate and revenge. That is why the Jewish people formed Israel and the Palestinians formed nothing!
And you are no difference, instead of embrace the Israelis that against the occupation you are gathering worldwide haters to punish them all.
Cthulu, you clearly didn't read my response and you are hiding your full name so like this boycott, you are irrelevant. Good bye.
We had this discussion covered-up top to bottom already on the previous hate campaign.
Israel already offered the Palestine’s the disputed territories.
First it was Rabin, then it Peres, then in was Ehud Barak and then by Olmert.
Every time they came to an agreement and it was signing-up time suddenly the PA leaders vanished…
So what now, who should Israel talk with regards to any future agreements? In one hand Hamas’s agenda is the destruction of Israel and on the other hand they have Abas that refuse to recognise Israel as a Jewish state, deny the holocaust and continue worldwide propaganda against Israel.
Israel never attacked unless provoked and this is the situation. And since the Palestinians chose terror organizations to lead them, they are where they are.
I hope you don’t mind me asking, are you also preparing boycott against Russia? China over Tibet? Qatar, which was built by slave labour and sponsor worldwide terror? How about Jordan for their recent bombing in Iraq and Syria which killed 7000 people…? (Let me guess when Jordan bomb, all the dead are IS militants but when Israel bomb it is all children and woman, right?)
How about turkey? For the occupation of Hatay province and Cyprus? What about the entire Middle East region that have zero respect to human right laws and treat woman as objects? Where is your protest? Where is your boycott?
You are singling out one country and targeting Israel, because it is easy, it is fashionable, it is free marketing, old fashioned hatred or maybe just have nothing else to do.
This group is completely insignificant to be honest. I am not sure what is more pathetic, this boycott or the time I am actually spending on responding.
The truth of the matter is that Europe has a sick obsession with the Jewish state. That really what it is all about!
The reason your campaigns always fail it that because it fuelled with hate, lies and empty comments. This is no different from the attacks on Jewish communities we see every single day. You are no different - You use and abuse every stage for your own personal hate agenda.
It is nothing to do with justice or the Palestinians because somehow you always manage NOT to condemn REAL atrocities and injustice around the world.
ohh, good morning Europe. what do you know, its 2015 with 1939 mentality.
Israel offered the Palestinians their land back many times and they refused every peace deal that was offered to them (by Rabin, Peres, Ehud Barak and Olmert)
Their Leaders do not fight for freedom, they are fighting against it and that is why their people are stuck in a limbo land with an uncertain future.
All you write is empty comments with zero knowledge...
In response to Brendan M and Abe
How come when there is a vote against Israel it is ‘democratic vote’ but when the vote is FOR Israel suddenly it becomes anti-democratic?
RIBA motion was followed by one sided presentation with no one questioned the content of this presentation, how come this is democracy when the voters were not presented by the two sides?
I agree with you that this is disgrace to RIBA…for letting some individuals to use and abuse RIBA stage and ‘royal’ title for their own personal hatred toward Israel.
My agenda is very clear, to keep RIBA focusing on its members and promote British Architecture.
You will find hard to believe but this is RIBA’s agenda as well.
Finally, common sense has prevailed over this lengthy / costly and ludicrous campaign.
Now that this is over, I do hope that RIBA can now focus on its members and fight for further changes in the planning system that is vital for the future of architecture in the UK.
For those people who are disappointed about this decision, if you do your research I am sure you will find a more appropriate platform for whatever agenda you have.
Boycotting does not promote dialogue between sides (which is badly needed in this current situation) it only creates further division and this is not good for peace or a stable future.
While every reform (as minor as it is) can only improve the current dysfunctional planning system - this is simply not enough.
We need planners with design knowledge and education knowing the importance of good and innovative design.
The current situation is a tick box system with too many grey areas which allows the planner complete control to refuse the application (even if all boxes are ticked).
Councils are currently allowed to refuse applications if guidelines change even AFTER submitting the application – this has to change. Every application should be based on the guidelines that are in force AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION.
Negotiation time over the application is down to the planners, which planners never give reasonable time for amendment which leads to refusal or withdrawal.
The appeal system also needs to looked at, while the current targets may say 8 weeks to decision, it takes over a year for a small renovations / rear extension to be considered….
As well as our clients being exhausted by the planning process, by time we get an appeal decision the project can then become irrelevant which results in loss of opportunity and business
I would like to congratulate the UKTI for promoting British architecture and helping us to get work abroad.
I am glad that they are being open minded and have not given in to the recent bully / hate campaign lead by the RIBA’s motion.
It appears that the UKTI is doing the job that should be RIBA’s purpose and at least they are engaging with both sides to create work that benefits both sides. i.e. does not create further divisions.
However, it is a shame that the AAP chose to miss another opportunity of progress to build for its own people and chose again the path of hate and revenge which lead to nowhere.
Regarding the destruction of holy and historic places by Israel; I am slightly shocked by this statement as the Palestinian's Wakf is digging under the temple mount since the 1990’s to destroy any proof of Jewish past ownership of the land. They also destroyed the Tomb of Josef and vandalised badly the Rachel's Tomb. So this is far from being one sided story.
I wish that RIBA will put the same amount of energy to promote change within our outdated and dysfunction planning system in the UK instead of fighting foreign wars it does not understand and can't possibly win.