Alan Dunlop's comments
forgive me .... but what on earth are you saying. Sorry, but this is drivel.
Grim? The choice of grey and black Petersen bricks and black pantiles are a bold move and will no doubt be controversial here.
But this building is undoubtedly a work of Architecture. Intellectually satisfying on many levels, expertly considered and immaculately detailed, in my view.
Great review. Pleasure to read.
Good luck, a frankly bizarre decision to refuse.
Great issue, clever ideas, excellent drawings. Well done
why is that worth pointing out?
Immaculate renders of what looks like a very interesting and contextual project. Good luck with it.
Excellent, long overdue.
"I feel it is frankly immoral for schools to be producing unemployable graduates." Agreed and agreed also that there are too many schools.
As for the most effective way of teaching architecture, I'd be interested to find out the number of the heads of these many schools are experienced in the craft of architecture, have actually built projects of some scale....... or at all.
Frankly, Glenn if you want to read a great article on the problems of architectural education read Austin Williams on sustainability supplanting critical engagement then Penny Lewis on the need for a core method and text, rooted in the study of history, context and culture and the modern movement.
I think you should say what you really mean Respor.
Congratulations Bruce and good luck.
Not unconvinced at all.........actually pretty ambitious and I'm thankful for it.
Is there a site plan and plan(s)?
Kerr Robertson is an highly experienced architect and well regarded professional. The fact the RIAS acknowledge that the competition was well run is largly due to his input and direction.
"whichever design won we would have gone with the public’s view." I don't recall this being made clear, if so why have a jury?
Congratulations SHA, a great project and build quality looks excellent.
Explosive right enough, well done RIAS..........wonder what the major issue was that arose during the judging and left the leader of the council increasingly agitated, the competition a shambles and Glasgow an international laughing stock?
Very nicely done, cleverly planned, good light from a narrow site and spatially very interesting. Congratulations.
Water features aside, Entry 2 seems to better understand the social, political and civic context of the square. That in my view is fundemental and suggest an architect that is very familiar with Glasgow and its history........it is also a fine proposal and that also seems to be reflected in the poll above.
Congratulations, Chris.......I'll look forward to seeing some more beautiful drawings.
Sorry Peter, I've had to read this an number of times to get to the core of your arguement. The global meltdown has brought with it an age of philistinism. At present it’s all about money.
At the recent AIA international conference, when the government's chair of education committee said architects had nothing to contribute to the future design of schools, leading members of the profession, including some you have mentioned, listening as the profession was undermined, stayed quiet. I was the only one who challenged that stunted view.
As a professor who has taught now in a few countries I am always heartened and delighted by the insight and capability of the young people who continue to study architecture. They are often outstanding, intellectually, creatively and rationally. This capability somehow has to be nurtured and allowed to develop and grow. As long as we have such people interested in becoming architects then the profession has a positive future.
The most remarkable, gifted and visionary architect artist of my generation. Astonishing work. Looking at his drawings was a humbling experience.
Perhaps more realisable and believable would be a better description, David.
Less ambitious perhaps but better suited to the topography of the gardens and the climate of Aberdeen, particularly in winter when the wind whips in from the North Sea?
Time to restore the Peacock Visual Arts Brisac Gonzalez project, I think.
Great Drawing and very interesting proposal and background story. Enjoy Venice both of you.
Atopian, eh. Very clever............ and as all schools should aspire to be.
Wonderful to see a celebration of craft and artistic ambition -even if it means yet another lunch.....
This was a joy to read, a real pleasure. Drawing forces you to think....and think again.
Sad news indeed. Jonathan Speirs was an inspirational figure. An exceptionally talented designer who guided Speirs and Major to the top of their profession and one of the few Scottish practices with a truly global presence and international reputation.
I agree, it's a stunning and historically significant site, the true birthplace of the industrial revolution.
Not that's of particular interest to anyone other than me but my first project as a newly qualified architect was the creation of the "New York Street" which was the centre piece of Granada Studios Tour and the cafe, burger bars and shops in the arches below........happy days. Not really a positive contribution either to such an important site but fun .........and it's gone, this proposal looks like it will stick around much longer.
Beautiful house, stunning quality of detailing and relationship to context. The limestone will only look better over time I would think, as the weather leaves its mark.........but what about the sto render how will that look ?
Impressive projects all of them but more likely to be the Doolan "Shortlist"
Congratulations Ross and Anna
There has to be someone at the head of government who takes a real interest in architecture that cares about design. At present, in both England and Scotland, you could be ordering toilet paper one week and commissioning an architect the next.
Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg in New York seems to have pushed through a method for better procurement of city buildings. For projects under $15m only practices with 10 staff or under are considered.
So what, we all borrow and this is much more convincing ....credit where it's due.
Hoskins has taken on a difficult problem for an area that desperately needs it.
This is a particularly worrying time for the city John, so much substandard work seems to be pushed through on the back of the economic crisis.
I've no idea where this project came from and although I consider myself to be very well informed with what's happening in my city, this was somehow kept under wraps. I had no idea either that Glasgow had a chief architect, the last one left before Glasgow was City of Architecture in 1999 which now seems to have been a golden age.
What an incredibly important and interesting project, matched only by an incredibly dull and uninspiring proposal.
Glasgow seems to be in real danger of no longer being recognised as a city of good contemporary architecture with this effort and the tin sheds approved on the Broomielaw.
‘BREEAM becomes a problem [in terms of cost] if it is used far too late as a tick-box, hassle exercise rather than a design tool"
I've been involved in a few school design conferences over the last year, both in the UK and USA. I've seen some great schools and some absolutely soulless, dispiriting and, frankly, dreadful ones.
The dreadful ones always lead by TRUMPETING their BREEAM and LEED credentials.
mmm...don't think he's been really underrated at all.
He has been considered an outstanding architect and educator for as long as I can remember. Particularly recently by those able to distinguish architecture from product design. I think instead others have been overrated.
Depends I guess on how much you value the RIBA Gold Medal as the true measure of an architect.
Much discussion at the moment is about PFI.
However, in the run up to presenting at the recent AIA BCSE conference I sat, quietly at first, with 200 architects, teachers and contractors and listened to Graham Stuart, MP for Beverley and Holderness and Chairman of the Education Select Committee promote private sector and business involvement in the procurement of new schools, while damning BSF.
It was a shocking exposition of the government’s hostile attitude toward architects. What was more bewildering to me is that those London based architects, many of whom were involved in BSF took it on the chin without question or response.
The attitude that schools don’t need architects to design them and that business and commerce can meet all educational needs is philistine and I told him so. Cookie Cutter schools may be cheap to build but they are not the answer. Yes teachers are important, but so is quality of the physical environment and good architecture.
Maybe in ten years, when this new form of PFI is exhausted we’ll learn that it is only by the architect and teacher working together and state school projects being properly funded that we can at last achieve great schools, that are fit for purpose.
p.s the yacht in the main image tells you all you need to know about the architects understanding of context.
This has to be easily the most disturbing planning approval granted by the city in recent years.
Conceptually flawed, out of scale, materially suspect and more of a barrier on the waterfront than an attraction it also brings into question the significance of organisations like A+DS.
Although their response was stifled by committee speak, their report was the most damning I have read recently for any project, yet the application was approved.
Sad day for Glasgow and the high aspirations some of us have for the waterfront.
Agreed. It's rediculous that 13 projects have been shortlisted once again, it devalues the prize and many of us, not just Scots* have thought so for quite some time. Four projects can justifyably be included this year as the best of architecture in Scotland.
Museum Of Scotland
* I'm Scottish too
I can't speak for their morals but as far as commerce and architecture is concerned, Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire is not really part of Scotland. It's frankly an independent state. They do things differently there.
The architects, with a the exception of Gokay Deveci, in the city don't really engage with the rest of the country and don't need to. As a consequence it's hard (impossible) to find a building in the city centre that you could direct an architect visitor intersted in good design to go see , I've struggled many times.
As far as applications being rejected by self interested councillors, in Aberdeenshire the opposite was true when Trump's proposals were approved.
These images have just been published, as part of the public consultation required in the run up to making a significant planning application. So it is the first time many of us have seen them and I'd say without exception the opinion, not just of architects, is that the project as presented is brutal pastiche and shockingly insensitive to the uniqueness of the landscape . The other weirder part of this is that the project as presented in these two drawings should be supported so wholeheartedly by the RIAS.
As for the A+DS, they have not yet commented on the project as now presented but to their credit they have be critical in the past, so I'll look forward to what they will say now.
As for procurement being parochial, we fankly need a bit more of that in Scotland, so that some of our best Scottish architects (and I would include Gareth in that, of course) can have a decent chance to secure public projects and make shortlists without being the token Scot there just to make up the numbers.
Well, as you know, for a project like this situated on such a wonderful, unique and ancient landscaped
(now renamed the GREAT DOOONES of SCATLAND)
all images should be hand drawn.