And so to the first case study, Liverpool. Jim Gill (Liverpool Vision), Tom Bloxham, David Dunster (University of Liverpool) and, Rod Holmes of Grosvenor Henderson debated what Liverpool needed now. For Holmes, the city council has established the ground for major developers to take a serious interest in the city, allowing Grosvenor Henderson to propose more than 30 new buildings to revitalise the centre. Bloxham and Dunster were less convinced that there was a culture favouring the best new architecture. A symptom of that was the absence of Baron Isherwood, whose post as NWDA director of regeneration has vanished in a management reshuffle. Jim Gill thought that the North West and Liverpool has the right leadership, but perhaps regeneration should not hinge on a single project such as the Fourth Grace.