London's South Bank was the starting point for a presentation on social engagement by Jackie Sadek, recently appointed by the ODPM as chief executive of Kent Thameside. 'I owe my whole career to this, where Stuart Lipton and Richard Rogers got a bloody nose at Coin Street because they thought they could ride roughshod over the local community.' Lipton then hired her to run Stanhope's community liaison programme for developments such as Broadgate, King's Cross and Chiswick Park. 'Good community relations isn't cheap, ' said Sadek, 'but it's a lot cheaper than going to appeal.' Julian Barwick of Development Securities described involving communities in Paddington and Docklands in his projects. He found that consultations with the 'rich community' led to campaigns to stop development. By contrast, the 'poor community'wanted to know how long it would be until it was finished. 'More and more I find that the developer has now become the people's champion.'