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Will Hunter How did your forthcoming designs for the Rug Company develop?

Clare Page The Fly Tip rug evolved from the Fly Tip wallpaper. But rather than a panel, it became like a border - it's an inversion of looking at a painting on the ceiling, where the sky is fringed with characters and activity.

Harry Richardson Whereas the Door rug has a static quality you might get in a Hockney.

Will Hunter Your references seem quite broad - the origami table made me think of the Bauhaus.

Harry Richardson If there are any high design references it's because they appear in the world alongside other things. We're uneducated in design; we know about people like Hockney because of trying to work out how to paint for three years.

Will Hunter Has studying together informed how you now work as a couple?

Clare Page Aesthetically we do everything together. One of us might do an hour of making something, then the other will come past and turn it all around.

When you're dealing with cultural reference, it's handy to work in a pair.

You can be more daring when you both have spotted the same thing.

Will Hunter It feels very English to me. The way you play with decoration is something that many designers still feel uncomfortable about.

Clare Page When we began I couldn't understand why Italian minimalist furniture was the norm, or why the Modernist aesthetic had to be good taste.

Will Hunter Is the Kebab Lamp a response to that?

Harry Richardson Placing together objects that people already know, ranging from rubbish to antiques, allowed us to question their relative values. You might fall in love with something that has been thrown away. The creation of silhouettes has often mirrored shifts from one belief system to another, but has now become ridiculous. We wanted to create a modern silhouette with no actual reason to it, using other people's decisions.

Will Hunter Tell me about producing the Fly Tip wallpaper for the British Council.

Clare Page We completely fell in love with these antique panorama wallpapers which used thousands of hand-carved wood blocks. But we were loath to do a pastiche of their style, or even of their subject. People are re-exploring crafts quite a lot now - they look at the old subjects in a nostalgic way which doesn't interest us. We wanted to take a subject from now and we chose rubbish and waste.

Will Hunter What process did you go through?

Clare Page We photographed rubbish around our shop in Deptford and, using a mixture of computer and hand, created 13 screen prints to be produced by Cole and Son. The ideas process being slightly free from the technology - combined with the manufacturer really knowing what they are doing - is our particular area of interest. Coming along and thinking: how can our input change the output of this industry?

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